Hey Splash (no pun intended, I'm sure),
What good posts from you. I love that "official countdown", taking their own boasts of baptisms down to age 6 years old.
Len Miller
FatFreek 2005
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Baptizing toddlers while critical of infant baptism
by FatFreek 2005 inthere are no less than two (watchtower publications) examples where six year old toddlers have been baptized.
what do you think?.
len.
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Baptizing toddlers while critical of infant baptism
by FatFreek 2005 inthere are no less than two (watchtower publications) examples where six year old toddlers have been baptized.
what do you think?.
len.
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FatFreek 2005
There are no less than two (Watchtower publications) examples where six year old toddlers have been baptized. What do you think?
Len
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I have become a return visit!
by pajaha injust for background, i da'd 12 years ago and i'm now an atheist/agnostic.. i normally avoid answering to the jws (i can usually tell it's them because i hear two sets of incredibly moving footsteps coming up the stairs to my flat) or they do a quick "magazine presentation" and then they're off.
on one occasion a few weeks ago i answered and the guy seemed up for a discussion.
i said i was an atheist, a lengthy discussion ensued and he "placed" a creation /evolution leaflet with me.. i was expecting a call and, after avoiding them a few times, i finally answered.
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FatFreek 2005
Hi Pajaha -- and welcome,
I love it when they call. I always get a chance to divulge the fact that I studied with them many years ago. Not a lie -- I simply don't expose the fact that I then became a MS, an elder, developed a bothered conscience that resulted in disfellowshipping.
Their inevitable question -- "Why did you stop studying?" -- is the perfect lead to my introduction to The Great Watchtower Contradiction, an 11 minute read designed for new ones but which poses questions on topics that the most seasoned JW would cringe at.
Contradiction contains a table handout that you can snip for purse or billfold. I always keep my billfold handy.
Len
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Yet another intro letter
by problemaddict into the mod, if this is posted in the wrong place please feel free to move it to wherever is appropriate.. so here is another lurker turned community member.
i might write up a life story at some point, but for the sake of time here are the abc's of me.. raised a jw.
friends for the most part are all jw's.
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FatFreek 2005
I love your handle as it is so clever. I enjoyed your story and am amazed at your inactivity of only 6 months. The fact that your wife and you seem to be on the same page is a definite plus.
You'll get many tips on reading material that will help reinforce your stance and here is one of them -- The Great Watchtower Contradiction -- an 11 minute read that was designed for ones not yet baptized. However, it poses some very challenging questions and thoughts that even the most seasoned JW would wish they wouldn't encounter at the door. All Watchtower quotes (except 1) can be found on the Watchtower library CD.
I, along with the some 70,000 each year who choose to exit Watchtower's flock, wish you the very best.
Len Miller
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Pope Innocent VIII transfused A Canard
by Marvin Shilmer inpope innocent viii transfused a canard.
today i added a new article to my blog addressing another gross misrepresentation about the history of blood transfusion.
since 1945 the watchtower organization has taught that pope innocent viii received a blood transfusion in the year 1492. it turns out this is another stellar example of watchtowers utter inability to get its facts straight when it comes to the subject of blood and blood transfusion.
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FatFreek 2005
Thanks for that, Marvin.
Len
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Pope Innocent VIII transfused A Canard
by Marvin Shilmer inpope innocent viii transfused a canard.
today i added a new article to my blog addressing another gross misrepresentation about the history of blood transfusion.
since 1945 the watchtower organization has taught that pope innocent viii received a blood transfusion in the year 1492. it turns out this is another stellar example of watchtowers utter inability to get its facts straight when it comes to the subject of blood and blood transfusion.
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FatFreek 2005
"I just checked my WT Library CD and could find no such statement. Anyone have a clue as to the source?"
Marvin: I’m not sure what you’re asking about.
I was simply asking for the source of that "70 step process" you mentioned. You then sourced it -- " ... recently mentioned at Watchtower’s annual meeting as protocol for all articles published by it." For which I thank you. Now, then, is there a record of that meeting that you mention, something that I can quote in one of my essays. It's a powerful statement but I will not use it unless I can cite the source.
Len
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FatFreek 2005
The GB simply had to have a way to curtail this swelling Memorial partaking (pretending) nonsense.
Len
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Pope Innocent VIII transfused A Canard
by Marvin Shilmer inpope innocent viii transfused a canard.
today i added a new article to my blog addressing another gross misrepresentation about the history of blood transfusion.
since 1945 the watchtower organization has taught that pope innocent viii received a blood transfusion in the year 1492. it turns out this is another stellar example of watchtowers utter inability to get its facts straight when it comes to the subject of blood and blood transfusion.
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FatFreek 2005
"A reader asks: How could such a bad mistake have passed Watchtower’s alleged ’70 step process’?"
I just checked my WT Library CD and could find no such statement. Anyone have a clue as to the source?
Len
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FatFreek 2005
This one's been around the block a few times.
